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The Queue: Dani Kaes

Dani Kaes fuses gas and glass into attention-grabbing neon. In The Queue, the Seattle-based artist shares about her favorite commercial neon sign, how to break down barriers and build community, and why she loves the temporary nature of her chosen medium.

Interview by Shivaun Watchorn
April 23, 2025

Photo by Sarah Cass

Dani Kaes in the studio.

Dani Kaes’s passion for neon may have been preordained.

“I think I was destined to do something with glass,” says the Seattle-based neon artist. “My first memory is of a glass vase falling on my foot at like 18 months old, and I suppose that just triggered something.” Kaes came of age in the Hilltop Artists glassblowing program in nearby Tacoma, which she enrolled in at 15. There she learned from instructors Trenton Quiocho and Jessica Hogan and met a lifelong community of glass artists. Now a full-time neon bender at Seattle’s National Sign Corporation, she has also exhibited at Pilchuck Glass School and the Museum of Glass and has taught and demonstrated at Pilchuck, the Museum of Neon Art, and the Glass Art Society. Kaes’s exuberant embrace of neon kicks off Jon Spayde’s “A Neon Renaissance,” a deep dive into women and nonbinary artists innovating in the art form, in the Spring 2025 issue of American Craft

How do you describe your work or practice?

My philosophies can be summed up with a short but important list: be community-first, stay DIY forever, don’t gatekeep, create opportunities for others where you can, pass the torch, tell others you love them when you can, and pay attention to when someone cares about what you’re doing. My biggest sources of artistic inspiration include the Las Vegas airport, Saturday morning cartoons, the works of Albert Camus, and bowling alley carpets.

Photo by Dani Kaes

Doors to Nowhere Often Exit to Somewhere, 2024, neon, recycled tubing, composite backer, 27 x 22 in.

What is your favorite piece of commercial neon? Where did you encounter it and what about it drew you in?

While it’s hard to think of just one, my go-to answer for this is the Magic Beach Motel neon sign in St. Augustine, Florida. It’s basically a perfect sign to me: simple, cute, whimsical, and excellent at doing its job at advertising the motel. It basically made me want to go to Florida just to stay there and stand in awe at the sign. Plus I love Rue McClanahan [the sign is featured in the 1999 TV show Safe Harbor, which starred McClanahan]. But I love a lot of neon—there are even some beer signs that catch my fancy. The goofier the better, and beer signs often know how to do goofy.

You’ve said that you’re drawn to neon for its inherently temporary nature. Can you explain why this quality is appealing to you?

I have always considered myself a process artist, where the actual art is the process of making itself. The piece begins before the tube is even bent, and I believe it should end once the tube dies out. The tube being on has more to do with the piece than whatever image it is depicting, since it symbolizes a completed idea.

I think it also has to do with my glassblowing background. Neon in so many ways was the antithesis of glassblowing, especially from a conservation perspective. So much of the glass I have made will outlive me, and the idea of a legacy just isn’t interesting anymore. I like that people have a “short” window to see something, and they either do or don’t. It’s like a little exclusive club.

Photo courtesy of Dani Kaes

Snakes and Ladders, 2024, recycled neon tubing, 18 x 6 in.

  • Photo courtesy of Dani Kaes

    Ode to Buster the Bar Dog, 2022, neon on composite backer, 2022, 48 x 60 in.

  • Photo courtesy of Dani Kaes

    A Piece of a Greater Narrative, 2023, neon on dead frame, 50 x 100 in.

You work at National Sign in Seattle, creating commercial neon for a variety of clients. How does your commercial work influence your personal art practice, and vice versa?

Working in a sign shop has taught me all the valuable neon skills that are needed in addition to actually bending the glass. Neon is not a standalone medium—it will always require some level of additional assembly and installation. Through signage, I have been trained on how to properly assemble a sign to code, paint matching, design and layout, and I even got my hazmat certification out of it! I feel like a lot of my work reflects this training, as I very much like pieces that are both easily contained and installed, rather than something like skeleton neon—that might be from having too many hard install days. Now I try to make my work as install-friendly as possible.

What are your go-to tools for working with neon, and why?

There’s all the standard stuff: a good file (a warding bastard cut), a nice swivel (I prefer a quarter-inch 90-degree single-sided swivel), a comfortable blowhose, and a good marking pencil (Stabilo 8008). I have become known for using a tiny torch for all my welds; I use the smallest one EGL makes, and people always think I’m crazy! But I find it gives me a nice heat all the way around in less time than using a bigger one. There’s no right way to do neon—it’s all about finding what works for you, and let me tell you, I make that baby torch work for me. I also always keep candy in my tool case, in case the mood ever goes down.

Photo courtesy of Dani Kaes

A detail of Clyde’s Bargain Bin Boots (For Dogs, Too), 2022, animated neon on a composite backer, 48 x 60 in.

“My biggest sources of artistic inspiration include the Las Vegas airport, Saturday morning cartoons, the works of Albert Camus, and bowling alley carpets.”

— Dani Kaes

If you were going to design a dream room in your house, which craftspeople’s work would you include?

Honestly, if money was no option, I would go crazy and start collecting old signs. I would deck the room out floor to ceiling in beautiful old porcelain signs. Signage is what got me (and has kept me, in many ways) into neon, so I would love to pay homage to the beauties of the past.

Which neon artists, exhibitions, or projects do you think the world should know about, and why?

I am so fortunate to be a part of an incredible generation of neon people. So many are doing new, interesting things with the medium and I am so humbled to be among their company. Some of my biggest inspirations include Jacob Willcox, Kacie Lees, Megan Stelljes, Leticia Maldonado, Dani Bonnet, Jeremy Bert (who actually got me my apprenticeship in my first sign shop—I can’t believe that I can consider myself his peer), James Akers, and my mentor, William Kirtley. These are all people I have been honored to have learned from, teach with, and grow with. I owe so much of my journey to them and so many more.

I also encourage people to support neon in museum settings. Places such as the Museum of Neon Art (Glendale, California), American Sign Museum (Cincinnati, Ohio), and The Neon Museum in Las Vegas do so much work to preserve neon as a craft and art form.

Photo courtesy of Dani Kaes

Dani Kaes collaborated with Jacob Willcox on Friendship Through 8ft Tubes, 2025, reclaimed neon tubing on acrylic, 96 x 48 in.

What are you working on right now?

I have a new body of work that is more of a personal challenge than a body of work. I have a hard time finishing pieces—loads of ideas and motivation, but a somewhat short attention span. So I have challenged myself to make simple patterns and make them start to finish. No stopping, no excuses. Sometimes I still have excuses and stop every once in a while, but it’s a challenge for a reason!

I have also been working toward my dream exhibition, tentatively called Me and All My Friends, where I collaborate with some of my favorite (non-neon) artist friends to come up with a piece of neon and execute it together. It helps me keep the magic alive by seeing all my friends fall in love with the medium, just like I did. My first finished piece in this series is a neon-tattoo collaboration with my husband, Bryan St. Clair, where we both made our own takes on the same prompt (a fish sandwich).

If someone wanted to learn to bend neon, what would you tell them? How do you lower the barriers to entry in neon?

I would tell them to start by finding a community of neon people, whether that be artists or sign-shop benders, and learn everything you can from them (maybe even especially the stuff outside of just bending). Starting out jumping straight into bending isn’t necessarily conducive to making good neon—having people to critique your work is a vital part of learning. More importantly, neon is very hard. Finding a community will help soften the heartache of getting through those first few hundred bends. And then practice, practice, practice. A sign shop is not a bad place to start. They can provide access and information about more than just neon bending.

Photo courtesy of Dani Kaes

A Fish Sandwich, 2025, neon, incandescent light bulb, and acrylic, 18 x 24 in.

Shivaun Watchorn is associate editor of American Craft.

Check out more of Dani Kaes's work online.

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This article was made possible with support from the Windgate Foundation.

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